Poopaphone
08-01-2007, 09:26 AM
Benjamin Linus: "Let me put it so you'll understand. Picture a box. You know something about boxes, don't you John? What if I told you that, somewhere on this island, there is a very large box and whatever you imagined, whatever you wanted to be in it when you opened that box, there it would be? What would you say about that, John?"
That line grabbed us all right? Was it science, magic, spiritual? What makes the metaphoric box work. For this discussion, I'm assuming that: box=island. Not a particular place on the island, but the island itself.
What causes things to appear on the island that you desire to be there?
Well looking back on the strange events that connected all the Losties together, the strange twists of fate that delivered them to the island, I deduced the now infamous Stand Theory (it's around here somewhere). However, recently I stumbled on something, that I'm sure all of you have heard of, that made much more sense to Lost world events (and much more sense that it makes in the real world -no not the MTV show.
The Secret.
Yes that hypermarketed collection of new age philosophies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_%282006_film%29
The secret is powered by "The 'Law' of Attraction".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction
Here's a brief description:
It states people experience the corresponding manifestations of their predominant thoughts, feelings, words, and actions and that people therefore have direct control over reality and their lives through thought alone. A person's thoughts (conscious and unconscious), emotions, beliefs and actions are said to attract corresponding positive and negative experiences "through the resonance of their energetic vibration." [1] The "law of attraction" states "you get what you think about; your thoughts determine your experience."[2] Many proponents of the idea claim that with practice a person can use the law of attraction to change their lives.
What if the island, through it's natural vibration or other geophysical properties, acts like a big magnent. Those 'in tune' with the island can pull things to them that they need and desire.
Ben says, "Two days after I found out I had a fatal tumor on my spine, a spinal surgeon fell out of the sky. And if that's not proof of God, I don't know what is."
The first principle of "The 'Law' of Attraction":
Know what one desires and ask the universe for it. (The "universe" is mentioned broadly, stating that it can be anything from God to an unknown source of energy.)
What about all the other people on the plane? Aren't many of them connected as like personalities? Aren't many of them like personalities to Ben? Father issues, acceptance issues, criminal intents at time, bold, calculating? Was Ben, in his desire to have his surgery able to set about events, passively by just desire, that pulled a plane out of the sky that included Jack and others that shared his personalities and traits?
Was Richard and crew able to use Juliette's deep seeded desire to be free of her ex husband, relate it those on the island, and actually have it done through the mysteries of the universe? That's something that always bothered me. I assumed they either hijacked a bus, or paid someone, but there would have been evidence. Unless it was truely an 'accident' that they were able to set in place by simply wishing hard enough that it happen.
It the case of dead people, can the island make you believe that they are there, by harnessing your subconscious and showing you what you really desire to see?
Can charlie want his guitar so badly that locke is able to find it and show it to him. Can claire want peanut butter so badly that they stumble upon the hatch? Can hurley want Libby enough that she actually is willing to?
Knowing that time is a huge element to the show, can these desires effect events retroactively? Can desmond want to be with Penny so badly that he can alter the events that put him on the island, until others (maybe 'others') convince him to change his path? Can Jack's future desire to return to the island change the events that got him off (get your mind out of the gutter) in the first place?
I'm sure I'm missing a ton of opportunities to apply this theory, and will rewatch seasons 1 and 2 with this in mind.
As always, I'm not claiming to be right, but rather, trying to find a concept that works with events we've seen, that can be applied to what we see in the future.
(and yes, I have no idea where smokey fits in this paradigm, he still works great in the Stand Theory; unless I combine the two...hmmm)
p.s. wow post 700 is a dousey...
That line grabbed us all right? Was it science, magic, spiritual? What makes the metaphoric box work. For this discussion, I'm assuming that: box=island. Not a particular place on the island, but the island itself.
What causes things to appear on the island that you desire to be there?
Well looking back on the strange events that connected all the Losties together, the strange twists of fate that delivered them to the island, I deduced the now infamous Stand Theory (it's around here somewhere). However, recently I stumbled on something, that I'm sure all of you have heard of, that made much more sense to Lost world events (and much more sense that it makes in the real world -no not the MTV show.
The Secret.
Yes that hypermarketed collection of new age philosophies.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Secret_%282006_film%29
The secret is powered by "The 'Law' of Attraction".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_Attraction
Here's a brief description:
It states people experience the corresponding manifestations of their predominant thoughts, feelings, words, and actions and that people therefore have direct control over reality and their lives through thought alone. A person's thoughts (conscious and unconscious), emotions, beliefs and actions are said to attract corresponding positive and negative experiences "through the resonance of their energetic vibration." [1] The "law of attraction" states "you get what you think about; your thoughts determine your experience."[2] Many proponents of the idea claim that with practice a person can use the law of attraction to change their lives.
What if the island, through it's natural vibration or other geophysical properties, acts like a big magnent. Those 'in tune' with the island can pull things to them that they need and desire.
Ben says, "Two days after I found out I had a fatal tumor on my spine, a spinal surgeon fell out of the sky. And if that's not proof of God, I don't know what is."
The first principle of "The 'Law' of Attraction":
Know what one desires and ask the universe for it. (The "universe" is mentioned broadly, stating that it can be anything from God to an unknown source of energy.)
What about all the other people on the plane? Aren't many of them connected as like personalities? Aren't many of them like personalities to Ben? Father issues, acceptance issues, criminal intents at time, bold, calculating? Was Ben, in his desire to have his surgery able to set about events, passively by just desire, that pulled a plane out of the sky that included Jack and others that shared his personalities and traits?
Was Richard and crew able to use Juliette's deep seeded desire to be free of her ex husband, relate it those on the island, and actually have it done through the mysteries of the universe? That's something that always bothered me. I assumed they either hijacked a bus, or paid someone, but there would have been evidence. Unless it was truely an 'accident' that they were able to set in place by simply wishing hard enough that it happen.
It the case of dead people, can the island make you believe that they are there, by harnessing your subconscious and showing you what you really desire to see?
Can charlie want his guitar so badly that locke is able to find it and show it to him. Can claire want peanut butter so badly that they stumble upon the hatch? Can hurley want Libby enough that she actually is willing to?
Knowing that time is a huge element to the show, can these desires effect events retroactively? Can desmond want to be with Penny so badly that he can alter the events that put him on the island, until others (maybe 'others') convince him to change his path? Can Jack's future desire to return to the island change the events that got him off (get your mind out of the gutter) in the first place?
I'm sure I'm missing a ton of opportunities to apply this theory, and will rewatch seasons 1 and 2 with this in mind.
As always, I'm not claiming to be right, but rather, trying to find a concept that works with events we've seen, that can be applied to what we see in the future.
(and yes, I have no idea where smokey fits in this paradigm, he still works great in the Stand Theory; unless I combine the two...hmmm)
p.s. wow post 700 is a dousey...