Juliet's REAL island purpose

[Darkhorse]

After reading the "brainwashing" thread and looking at all of your posts and questions, something crossed my mind.

Here is what we know:

Juliet was able to get a male rat pregnant

Karl (male) was being brainwashed

How did God love Jacob (my new contribution here - "In the Womb - before he and his twin were born")

Lots of flowers were in the brainwashing video (I think KG pointed this out - I missed it)

Sawyer was kind of mezmerized by the brainwashing video

Juliet looks at and discusses 70 year old vs 26 year old uterus xrays

Vacinnes/drugs are given on the island but only to guys, that we've seen so far, right? (could be female hormones)

Tom saying to Kate "you are not my type" and acting kinda gay or lacking a lot of testosterone

No pregnant female Others

I'm thinking that Juliet's real purpose could be Uterine transplantation, and perhaps into the males only -(I know - weird) and perhaps even after there is a baby inside the uterus.

This may be WHY Kate slept with Sawyer (may have been threatened too or experimented with - as in artificially inseminated), why Sun is now pg - could have been planned by Dharma peeps, pre island, and ...... dun, dun, dun DUN .....now we find out that Alex is Ben's daughter. Isn't it strange that they would point this Father/Daughter relationship out in this episode?

[The Other]

Where would the baby come out of?

[Darkhorse]

Where would the baby come out of?

Ceasarean section (sp?)

[AVREY97]

Wow, now were treading in Arnold Swarchenegger/ Danny DeVito territory.
What was the name of that movie?? The one where Arny was pregnant??

hmmm...you may be on to something though. Does anyone remember if Danielle said her crew was all male? Why didn't she get the sickness but they all did?
Maybe the island effects women in different ways.

[Samhain]

Junior.

Anyway, I don't think thats it. Also, I really don't think Tom is gay. Maybe Kate's chest is a little too small for him, and he prefers redheads.

[AVREY97]

THANK YOU SAMMY!!!
That was really going to bug me if I couldn't remember.

[Darkhorse]

Junior.

Anyway, I don't think thats it. Also, I really don't think Tom is gay. Maybe Kate's chest is a little too small for him, and he prefers redheads.


Ha ha ha!

And btw - How did God love Jacob?

In the womb - and yes, there were TWINS in that womb- Jacob and Esau.

More to think about:

Tom told Jack that Ben and Juliet have an history together. ...... If Juliet has only been on the island 3+ years, that really isn't much of an history...... BUT, if they had known each other PRE-island (and we've seen Ben in flashback videos as a surgeon) .... that gives us an idea as to the history and what Ben's role/importance is on the island.

[D'zle]

Ha ha ha!

And btw - How did God love Jacob?

In the womb - and yes, there were TWINS in that womb- Jacob and Esau.

More to think about:

Tom told Jack that Ben and Juliet have an history together. ...... If Juliet has only been on the island 3+ years, that really isn't much of an history...... BUT, if they had known each other PRE-island (and we've seen Ben in flashback videos as a surgeon) .... that gives us an idea as to the history and what Ben's role/importance is on the island.

I think the history Tom was referring to was the fact that Juliet hates ben for keeping her there for so long against her will. He told this to Jack before Juliet told Jack about her situation. I don't think it's a romantic history more of a fighting history.

[AVREY97]

I think the history Tom was referring to was the fact that Juliet hates ben for keeping her there for so long against her will. He told this to Jack before Juliet told Jack about her situation. I don't think it's a romantic history more of a fighting history.

I agree with that Dz. Juliet seems to have a resentment towards Ben that is different than the one she had towards her ex husband.

[professor]

But Juliet IS different now than when she was in Miami. If the two had a relationship AND worked together on this intense project where Juliet can get people/things pregnant who shouldn't be, that can make them feel close very fast. Then what happened to make her hate him so much? He double crossed her because Ben is only out for Ben and whatever they are doing, everything else is secondary, including relationships.

[Darkhorse]

I wasn't saying that Juliet and Ben had a romantic history, just that they may have had a pre-island history, being doctors ... etc. And the fact that Alex is Ben's daughter may have something to do with it.

Personally, I think it would be super lame if Lost ends up showing pg men, but ya gotta admit, there is some weird stuff going on inside that Alcatraz island and I don't get WHY they would bring out the fact that Juliet was able to get a "male" rat pregnant.

[AVREY97]

Im thinking perhaps they said that (the lab rat thing) to show what she had done. I think the others were more interested in the fact that she got her sick sister(with what Im assuming is some kind of cancer?) pregnant. They showed her the womb of a woman that is sevearely damaged. If she can fix her sisters chemo damaged womb, perhaps they thought she could fix whatever was happening to the women on the island.

[Knotty.Girl]

Darkhorse, while yes, the theory of men being pregnant and all that is kinda odd, and maybe lame....I was thinking the same thing.

[mattyrewls22]

MAJOUR SPOILER Juliet and ben were married, abc did a Ben factfile, and it said "Ben and juliet were once married"

[bladerunna]

After reading the "brainwashing" thread and looking at all of your posts and questions, something crossed my mind.

Here is what we know:

Juliet was able to get a male rat pregnant

Karl (male) was being brainwashed

How did God love Jacob (my new contribution here - "In the Womb - before he and his twin were born")

Lots of flowers were in the brainwashing video (I think KG pointed this out - I missed it)

Sawyer was kind of mezmerized by the brainwashing video

Juliet looks at and discusses 70 year old vs 26 year old uterus xrays

Vacinnes/drugs are given on the island but only to guys, that we've seen so far, right? (could be female hormones)

Tom saying to Kate "you are not my type" and acting kinda gay or lacking a lot of testosterone

No pregnant female Others

I'm thinking that Juliet's real purpose could be Uterine transplantation, and perhaps into the males only -(I know - weird) and perhaps even after there is a baby inside the uterus.

This may be WHY Kate slept with Sawyer (may have been threatened too or experimented with - as in artificially inseminated), why Sun is now pg - could have been planned by Dharma peeps, pre island, and ...... dun, dun, dun DUN .....now we find out that Alex is Ben's daughter. Isn't it strange that they would point this Father/Daughter relationship out in this episode?

thinking about it, this could have been a reason why they kidnapped claire..

[Samhain]

Didn't they operate on Claire? Or did she leave prior to the operation?

I certainly don't remember this part.

And transplanting uteruses is getting a little far-fetched for me. That would be the "jump the shark" moment.

[bladerunna]

alex saved her

[mattyrewls22]

I think juliet was brought there to impregnate WOMAN, because island woman can't get pregnant.

[trace]

wow, i think maybe they are trying to get men pregnant. if the others are having problems with quickly deteriorating uteruses (uteri? :) ) then obviously they may be getting desperate to be able to reproduce and stay self-contained on the island (for the most part). we really haven't seen any children around, the youngest are alex and karl, right?

so it makes sense that if they discover a fertility dr who can make use of males to reproduce as well, they want her!

[vexingmodstwo]

If that's what they're doing I'm gonna be ticked off... there's no where for men to carry a baby!!!!!

The mere thought of it is causing things to hurt... I won't get into specifics. :D

[trace]

If that's what they're doing I'm gonna be ticked off... there's no where for men to carry a baby!!!!!

The mere thought of it is causing things to hurt... I won't get into specifics. :D

LMAO

well juliet did it for a mouse... and its ok to stretch our tiny little bodies out but not yours?? :)

[vexingmodstwo]

LMAO

well juliet did it for a mouse... and its ok to stretch our tiny little bodies out but not yours?? :)

Yes. Definitely.

[Poopaphone]

The Brainwashing, in my mind (hehehe) anyway, is clearly orginally for, and being used now, for making people more docile. The images and words, espically now that you've added "in the womb", are symbolizing a 'rebirth' - much like a "Born Again" christian. Karl was naughty, put him in the old Dharma brainwasher.

As far as impregnating men, I wouldn't go that far quite yet. I think the story of the mouse was to suggest that Juliet is very talented and can pull off the near impossible. Plus it was a timely refence to research that had been going on in the real world.

[Darkhorse]

The Brainwashing, in my mind (hehehe) anyway, is clearly orginally for, and being used now, for making people more docile. The images and words, espically now that you've added "in the womb", are symbolizing a 'rebirth' - much like a "Born Again" christian. Karl was naughty, put him in the old Dharma brainwasher.

As far as impregnating men, I wouldn't go that far quite yet. I think the story of the mouse was to suggest that Juliet is very talented and can pull off the near impossible. Plus it was a timely refence to research that had been going on in the real world.

I sure hope you are right, Poops.

[jerry maguire]

I think her purpose ahs something to do with being able to im-pregnate a rat and having all those animals on teh island. Maybe they're trying some cross-breeding or something, and a human's womb/uterus isn't able to carry it.

[Knotty.Girl]

I think her purpose ahs something to do with being able to im-pregnate a rat and having all those animals on teh island. Maybe they're trying some cross-breeding or something, and a human's womb/uterus isn't able to carry it.


Oh that is something I did not think about. The polar bears, the..."bird". Maybe with the sharks and such.

[alarose20]

If that's what they're doing I'm gonna be ticked off... there's no where for men to carry a baby!!!!!

The mere thought of it is causing things to hurt... I won't get into specifics. :D

temper temper vexy wexy... remember... we ARE going to have a Jump the Shark moment this season... this would definately be a HUGE Jump the Shark moment... more like a WHALE Shark...

[hatch_hermit]

I seriously doubt it's for male pregnancy. Remember, the male mouse got pregnant, but didn't carry to full term. They probably figured if she can get a male mouse pregnant, Juliet has the best shot of getting a female human to carry to full term. Maybe that's the problem, the women can get pregnant, but always miscarry. This fits in with them kidnapping Claire. They didn't think she'd be able to carry to full term so they helped her along using Juliet's research.

[AVREY97]

And THAT is what Ethan injected her with!!!

[Lost is my Obsession!]

When they flashed back to her being interviewed by Richard back in the "real" world she was asked to look at xrays of the uterus and she thought it was an old lady, which he then said was actually a young lady and wanted her to find out why it was like that....maybe this lady with the crazy uterus is one of the others and is on the island and that is why juliet was brought there to "fix" her. But since no fertility specialist had "fallen" out of the sky to help her (like Jack the spinal surgeon had for Ben) then they had to go recruit someone which ended up being Juliet. I dunno. I still think there is some crazy research project going on but I don't think it has anything to do with getting men pregnant. I think they just put that in there to show how truly smart and talented she is in the field of fertility in general.

[D'zle]

Ok, here's my take on it. The women on the island can't reproduce for some reason...maybe the island won't let them? They go to get Juliet due to her research and what not. Since they can't have kids, they kidnap and condition kids to their culture and way of life to ensure that their people survive down the road and not go extinct. IE the two kids that were taken from the tail section. fast forward 4 years later. Juliet still hasn't been able to help them (the island won't let her) so they just keep her there. Now jack comes in shakes things up and makes a deal. Ben has no choice but to let Juliet go home.

[XMOZZAZX]

There is no question in my mind that the missing children are going to be huge in this. They keep hinting at them (Jack saying that they are safe) and whatnot, but they don't even tease us with them a bit. They may be central to the 'box'. If it's a matter of belief, children are understandably the best for that, they can believe in anything. Santa, the tooth fairy and Mr. Easter Bunny have nothing on the 'box'.
They weren't letting Juliet get away, they were telling Jack that to shut him up, she ain't going anywhere, probably Ben's most important person there. They need children for some understood reason. She was more than likely not trying to cure the women in the first place, knowing what they would get out of it.

[Knotty.Girl]

Seems a lost of people were right (in one way or another) Yay for everyone!

[WickedSlip]

wild speculation: juliet wanted to take the mothers off island, ben said no. in an earlier epi ben said there were only a few born on the island left.

that being said, what if there is a correleation between those "born" on the island, inablility to leave the island and an inability to procreate?

what if whatever comes from the box can't leave (TTP) and the creation is imperfect? (insert vex's monkey's paw here)

[Lost is my Obsession!]

that being said, what if there is a correleation between those "born" on the island, inablility to leave the island and an inability to procreate?

I agree! That would explain how Danielle and Claire were able to give birth on the island.

[WickedSlip]

BUT, ben seemed eager to get a pregnant woman from the flight.

so either (1) he doesn't kow the condition is island-born specific, (2) it isn't islander specific or (3) he knows, needs a control subject, but doesn't want other people to know what he knows (ya know?).


seeing as juliet referred to clair as the control subject i vote for #3

[Cerberus]

i agree with wicked for the same reason :D